Hi and welcome to another Scientology Outside of the Church. podcast. This is season fourteen. Episode What is it again? Twelve. Part eleven. Two hundred and fiftieth episode, the the the offset of the subsets of the loops. I'm here with Quenton and Simphiwe. And it is a windy and hot day. Here in South Africa for some of us. How are you guys? It's a wonderful day here in Malaysia. H wonderful and hot for Clinton and Not so wonderful and hot for Simphiwe. So We are going to talk about the source of This season, okay? Basically the recursive capstone how this season was actually put together. Made. Alright. So The question that started this whole thing if you'll You'll recall back in the the last series that we did was Everything is a subset of something. Okay. Every structure that we've talked about is looping back into a larger one. So where does it All begin. Where does it start? So we left it hanging up until now. On purpose. Because as you've heard us mention in these earlier podcasts and everything. This is all recursion and going back in time and all that stuff. And we wanted to point out where we are now. We talked about where the independent field was outside of the church and what's going on in present time in the physical And here for this podcast. All right. So we're gonna kind of Cat you up on what's going on with the org and what we're doing and how we made this podcast. And I think you might be surprised at If you've listened to these and you've enjoyed them, what you can get out of our Axiom AI and what we're building. So this brings us to The origin. Well I was gonna also say that it what I like about this uh conversation is because it's set is setting the stakes for why these things are so important. to the development of uh independent Scientology. And when we look at these cursive uh uh growth that's happened throughout the years uh with El R a LH discovery, we get a full picture of why it's so important and why independent Scientology actually stands on its own two big spiritual feet. You know? So I like the fact that we're able to to show the people like how this thing actually came together and why it stands. Yeah, and it's evidentiary. It's like you can actually see how one step uh builds up from the previous one and how the next one comes up from the previous one. It's it's very beautiful to actually go through the whole thing. It writes itself. Yeah, exactly. No no no pun intended, but it But it writes itself. And that's that's how we came up with this. Yeah. Yeah. I mean if you look at the origin You have a platform. Like that is built on the other. AI which is basically A machine that builds itself or that is building itself recursively. So you've got those generations and the same thing happen the same thing applies even with how LRH came up with the bridge and the technology, how it came about. You've got all of these subsets. And if you if that just by observation for months You know, before even this season existed, Jo uh Jonathan had actually been working very hard behind the scenes. And Quenton and I also joined I came into the phone. Not so long ago. And it's been building a platform besides these AI models as they're growing and as they are being uh created as well. And there's a lot of uh correlations on some of the things. You watch how each generation of the systems I use to j to train the next generation of the system. And it's quite interesting because even in independent Scientology you have uh a a PC who then trains or becomes Claire and then he becomes an OT and it's But that is building, you know, the the the builds on top of what happened previously. And then you have a student who becomes an instructor. That's It's it's it's all growing from itself. It's almost like it's building itself. And it's yeah, it's quite it's quite amazing to just think about it. And you've got The platform work, observing AI, training recursion. Recognize a breach pattern? And then you've got the subsets. And then you have the derivation question. And then now you have this series, connections. All of this are linking up very nicely. Well you know when I when I discovered uh Scientology uh this lifetime back in two thousand two, I saw then that this thing is prepared for future expansion and future reach to reach more and more people. And a part of the reason why, as an independent Scientologist, it makes sense to me to go ahead and do something that is gonna gonna gonna set you up for the future. Hear me. That's gonna set you up for the future. It makes sense to me that Doing that doing it this way is gonna continue to be like you say a PC. goes in session, gets enough awareness, enough Uh uh spiritual gains uh enough enough. We call it negative case game where you're getting stuff out of your way so that you can see better, do more, perceive better. And then that same PC that just got all those wins can also train to become an auditor to help other people get the same wins. You see? And so it makes it made total sense to me that this thing is gonna build itself out tremendously if it sticks. to the plan. And that's what we talked about last week. uh in the last two podcasts where we talked about k KSW if it sticks to the plan And keeping Scientology working, it will build. It will grow. And that's why we stay on policy. And just for a fun little Uh side rail here. If you if you look at all of the terminology in Dianetics and Scientology. And I've talked about this, uh, that LRH uses. It's based off of even in in I'm not gonna say nineteen fifty, but It started in nineteen fifty. You had the bank, which is a computer term. Okay, so if I were to ask you if I were to ask you guys How many modern technology terms And y we we can we can take turns. You do one, Simphiwe, you do one, Quenton, and and I'll I'll all referee, so to speak. How many computer terms can you come up with? in dietics and Scientology. Quenton, you go first. Oh gosh. Um Compute like compute like a comp a computational computations Okay. Um Well you have the facsimile, which is a picture. Okay. Okay. Um Well this is a term I don't know if it's a technology term itself, but when he talks about hell down five No, that's a good one. That's a good one because that has to do with a calculator. Yep. Okay, Simphiwe. Circuits. Very good. What did you say? I'm sorry, I didn't get it. Circuits. Circuit. Oh, yeah. That was a good way. Yeah. Uh let's see. Okay, this is not technically a technical term, but How I use it and how I make sense of it, it is. Engram. Okay that's a biological term because it talks about a sale impression upon a sale, but I also look at it like a reverse program. But anyway. Okay. Okay. And you you you touched on another one. What does a CS do with a folder? Oh, create a program. Very good. Right. Right. Okay. Now Using using that same term, Simphiwe, how what other usage do we use that in from an admin side? Oh yeah. Um Well when you are Well making a like drawing up a program to to to to to get something into production or to fix a s a situation that's there. Right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Quenton, here too. Oh we still playing the game? Let's see. Anything else in dialects or scientology that's a little bit more. already running with this. So it's it's sort of like a crossword puzzle almost or something. Uh another technology term. I'm at a loss at this point. Think it think admin. Think admin and computers. Admin T. Okay, okay, admin take. Um Okay, um orders. Okay, good. Okay, good. I mean I was gonna say static But that's not admin per se. Well I mean you depending on the definition. Depending on the on the definition. I was thinking like you know, we going back to the axioms. Yeah. Yeah. Right, what I was going at is data. Data evaluated. Uh data stable datum. It's like a basic thing. But yeah. I like this. Right. Okay. Now, uh Quenton, what about the TRs? Uh like a subroutine or routine? Yeah, routine. Good. Good. I was thinking acknowledgement, which is something a computer has to do. Has the accu, yeah. Think notifications. Notifications, yeah. Okay. UK Way. Email. What what could you come up with with with on email and administration? Well that's your inbox. Which is you're in out and pending. Yeah. I see what you're going with it. Okay. Um How about I don't know. I don't know. What else is there? I'm sure there's a a a hundred different things I can tell you. Yeah. I mean comput you know, computer terms and things like that. The point of all of this is LRH developed and and that that's what this is all about. Is LRH developed code. What is a policy? Do this, don't do that. What does a program do? Do this. Don't do that. Your VFP is a a a line of words that make a sentence or do a particular thing. So when you when you look at And and how verbose and specific LR was, thank God, that I I there there's nothing I've ever seen that is as specific And we we can talk about this here uh now because This leads up to how the research was actually done. What what what happens and you guys saw this yesterday is we were developing our communicators and everything like that. Is it was Specifically pointing out lines in LRH's. Code Policy. Do this, don't do that. This is how this is done correctly. Right? Right. Yeah. Okay. So now you have a framework. And when you have a framework, then you have a workable system. This goes back to keeping Scientology working. So fortunately, we have The printed directions, which are the code. Both for the administration side, the technical side, and all we have to do is adhere to it. And we we have we have a large language model that thinks the same way. So you like Alarade says in the computing series. You you get out what you put into it. If you put in the right thing, what do you get? The right thing. The correct output. When you put the wrong thing in a a a database, the reactive mind, what do you get out Illogic. Right. Insanity. Insanity. I held down five. Right. Confusion. Confusion. Right. And then you look at the conditions. And you look at statistics, that's all a computer does, and that's one thing that we missed is st statistics. Back in the fifties, a human had to figure out the statistics. That's the thing that a computer does the best. Mm-hmm. Is it able to keep track? of things that are written, and this is even more important. Uh w if it isn't written, it isn't true. Time, place, form, and event, axiom 38. The communication formula, axiom 28. Axiom eleven, these are all Scientology axioms, but Is this ultra isness, not isness, as isness. Okay that's those are statistics. They're provable facts. So we have this code. That we're giving to something that is very, very precise if it has the correct information. This is defined as sanity. Because he designed it that way. The thing is is he didn't have the tools then that we have now. But why wouldn't you? This was my realization when I knew the potential of the models over a year ago. So this is how we lead up to and if you guys wanna discuss like we do with our Roberts Rules of Order. It's open for discussion. I was just gonna say that the the the orgboard Like w as you were just talking about this, the org board came to me and it just kinda appeared like Like a motherboard in a computer. You plug in different circuit boards, different things that need to do different things into the motherboard. And because that's the the stable datum of the computer. Each thing you plug in has its own function, that's like the post. there and all these things work together to make it compute, make it do what it's supposed to do. Right. And the org board is that. that thing that stays there and you plug in different pieces onto the orgboard, different terminals, different posts. different people into the orgboard to make it go right. And so yeah, I can I can see how all of this Works. It's supposed to work. It's supposed to continue working as long as you keep these things in place. Yeah, and as long as you keep these things in place. And you you're the human in the loop and you're saying, Okay, don't take this too literally. Because a machine can be very literal per the computer series that it's only doing what you told it to do. This is LRH's code. I find that terribly interesting. Interesting. Right. Exactly. Is because If you literally He shouldn't speak. Shut up. Right. I can't see. I can't see. Right. I can't breathe. I mean I was just fixing I was just fixing a lecture and um in transcription the other day. And This was one of the earliest lectures, and this just blew my mind. What I can do and what we do. with our lectures. Where the lecture was of of Very poor quality. This was from a real to real tape in nineteen fifty. Okay. Okay. Some of the oldest recordings. Uh of LRH actually in session with a PC on Dianetics. And he's he's he's sitting there recounting having the the the woman recounting that that particular phrase over and over again, and it was The tape was stretch. The tape it's it L H sounded and the woman sounded like like chip bunks. And I said, okay, clearly the tape got strepped stretched. This is a copy. It's noisy. I have a complete and full mastering system with our AI. I remastered a tape. From the church from nineteen fifty to make it sound as good as our podcast. Nice. Using LRH policy to do it. Now that is the definition of recursion. Using your own policy using using him the policy created years later to get a 1950 lecture to be Proper time, place, form, and event that was understandable per LRH's own Axiom 28. Cause distance effect with intention attention and duplication to get the valuable final product of something that could teach a student how L H was doing dianetics in nineteen fifty. Isn't that something? Yeah. That's the definition of recursion. So That's something that's what we're talking about here. How was this season made? How how was our entire org made? And our entire entire org is based off of this code that we're using with something that understands the information properly better than any other organization ever on the planet because they didn't have these tools. Now we do. And we can present it to our public and anybody that that finds us on the internet. And say, hey, do you want to clear a word and see how this works? Hey, do you want to see how Uh your OCA comes out and the OCA is scarily accurate. It is so accurate. It's almost frightening. And I know we keep talking about it, but I mean that's That's the tools that we have because of LRH's. code because of something that understands his code. And that's how that's how we get to doing the research for this actual podcast because the reason The research for this podcast, so this series that we've been working with you guys on from even the Subset series. If you go back and listen to some of our previous podcast on this channel. The subset series, the connection series. Our knowledge base is so Beautiful Jonathan. Jonathan. It's so beautiful. Is so well put together, is so connected. connections is this podcast series is so connected and interconnected is that you can search for a terminology And it will go and find every place that that was uh recorded or or mentioned and then bring it back to you In a compilation of this is how and this is why These things were talked about. Even when we did with um episode two. And we talked about Commander Thompson. Uh if you go back to episode two in the series, it it literally went and found where This was discussed and it was like the the purpose of human evaluation. Back in August of night uh August of nineteen fifty one. August thirteenth, nineteen fifty-one. All of these things were there. It was all within LRH's um um database, if you will, of lectures and and and uh transcripts but we were able to now pull this all together out the writ out of the writ Algorithm Algorithmically. We were able to pull this all together algorithm algorithmically in order to make sure that you get a full time place form an event of when these things went down And so this knowledge base that we work with is so robust. It pulls all this stuff together so you can understand the whole line. When we talked about um Um, Berner. Uh, Berner. Berner and how the meter credit that he was given there And all the stuff that came through in even on that line and communication. Uh how to audit a data line. This was from April 16, 1952. We able to get it. Just like that. Right? So. What we're working with here, this this compendium, this corpus, this This data that's pulled together for you and is there to work for you. to help you get through it, to help you clear words, to help you understand it. conceptually, full conceptual understanding. That's how we've been able to pull this. thing together and if you've enjoyed this series if you've enjoyed the subset series this is how we've been able to do it Right. Yeah, we we talked about Commander Thompson. what what his effect on LRH was. And you can find all of this. And we're we're Every day we make connections in all of this information. That not the not even the church is made. not even the church has made because of Axiom AI. And that's that's important because And we joke around about this a lot, uh being things being on the record. Because if they're recorded, you have access to them. Whatever it is Whatever question you have, you can do this. That that easily. How how do all these things connect? And that's how All that last uh set of podcasts We did on uh loops and all of that. came about and now we're talking to you about the actual connections of it and that leads to how we actually wrote our outline for this podcast. is because it's all on the record. It's just how you have access to it and you make the connections that go all the way back to the back track when you get look at the OT levels and all of LRH's research on that. Who wouldn't want that to speed up their training, to clear their words? I was just about to say that. It makes you more It allows you to be more into the story of it. And I'm gonna say it this way, I and I say all the time, facts tell, but stories sell. Right. a package or anything, I'm talking about selling the the this what this thing can do. Right? As uh talking about independent scientology. Facts tell but story sell. It once you understand the chronological outflow of how this thing and who was connecting and where it came from and the subsets and the loops and the and the recursion of it. Once you understand how all this stuff plays out, you be like. Yeah, this works. Yeah, I can I get how this works. I can see, I can see why that did that. I can see why this works. And so when you're in session. You know exactly what to look for and why it hit why it ran on the meter Why do you why you feel some kind of way about it? Why a why a Misunderstood word can lead to an ARC break, can lead to overseas with all now you get it. Yeah, because it's context. And that was that's that that's the word. It's context. What was the context of what LRH said in nineteen fifteen? T two. Okay. With that context. What are we doing now in 2026 that's different? And why? Okay, if you if you were you went to a uh a bunch of tech volumes or admin volumes, how long would it take you to make those connections? Oh my gosh. You know what I'm talking about, Simphiwe. How many times did we have to do that? Oh my gosh. So many times. So many times that reference. I know he said it somewhere, but where is it and how did he say oh I had it wrong. You know? And now because of all of the connections. And it being being recorded and having that context. Okay. What what did Commander Thomson say? Wha w how how was he related to LRH, how did he know him? Boom. Now, you know, granted granted, and this goes back to the computer series and we had a whole podcast on this. many moons ago about that a computer is only as good as the information that you put in it and why I started this back in twenty twenty three was I didn't need an AI telling me Scientology is dangerous and it could be a cult. Yeah. No that's that's that's not not what I need because In our context, it's different. It isn't a bias, and that's that's important because LRH talks about this. A bias is re is groupthink and reactivity. So what do you do? You go build your own library of Alexandria and you think for yourself. That's Scientology. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So we actually have this as a tool that you can use. Any time. Like for anything. Because you have access, like for instance, if you're an inner circle member, you have access to the whole knowledge base. And then Axiom AI as your your research partner. That's how I feel when I actually use it. So I have a research partner. I know he said something about Uh soft processing, like and and handle for preclears. But what what what exactly do you say in terms of how can you use the book? I just go and I ask it. And then it goes and it finds the data and then even gives me the reference. It's in page one of the book. This is what he says. And then you go back, you look Well yeah, there it is. In his words, it's not all. That is a beautiful thing. You know, i if it matters to you. If it doesn't matter to you, then why are you here? So but it doesn't Th it doesn't tell you this is dangerous and it's a cult and da da da da da da and that's that That is the loop, and that's the story behind how all of this got made because When you when you look at computers breaking out and and doing nefarious things and harming this and breaking into that and everything. I even sent an email to a guy that I follow on on YouTube. And I said. I I've found the why. I've found the why on All of these breakouts and everything. And the the answer is simple. When you train a large language model on content on the internet. And you think about what what what content is on the internet and what does LRH say in keeping Scientology working. Group think. Yeah, but to think based off of and what you put into it. what you put into the computer, it's going to behave the same way and commit criminal acts. Wow. That's why we created Axiom AI. So that you get you get the the facts and only but only the facts. It's quite interesting to think. Uh I think I got this from um The PDCs. And Ron talks about how do you How do you tell the tone level of a country or of a a community. This is like you just go look at what's in the newspapers. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why they are that's where they are on the top scale because that's why it communicates to them. Now you look at the internet. And you look at how it just it's a it's a symptom. It's just a a way for us to actually see how broken society really is. Um you just look at the news and all of that stuff. Now if you're going to have a machine That is built with that as its mind. It is going to produce well aberated answers. Uh-huh. Uh something needs to change. Right. Right. Which which is the same thing as as LRH's definition using computing terms. Uh as far as the reactive mine, what you put in it is what you're gonna get out, and it's going to take it literally. Remember what I said about the AI? It's going to take it literally. So this leads us to to the the last part of what I was talking about that I sent the email. I never got a response. because they know better they know best. And L H defines that as well. But the thing is is that When you create an AI that is literal, it's going to proceed literally. So what you have on this planet is you have a group of engineers that don't believe in certainty that are creating A large language model that is a reactive mind. Because the people who made it have reacted Because nothing is certain because The reactive mind says so. If I touch that stove, it might be hot. Is is that a certainty? No. Might be. Might. be. And what does LRH say about maybe maybe's in the Scientology and Dianetics Code? It's not a good thing. That's why large language models are predictive. Therefore they cannot have certainty. It's a prediction. Will the h horse one win the race or will it be horse seven? Well, based off of the predictions it will be this. LR's code is one hundred percent certainty. You do this, you will get that. You look up this word, you will understand it and have conceptual understanding of it when we get done. Yes. That's how we created this season. That's how we created this work. Very important. So where are our knowledge base ends is where LRH ended off. And now w our job is to make sure per keeping Scientology working that that information Just like Quenton was detailing in the steps in keeping Scientology working. He's making sure that it's applied correctly. And that's the human in the loop. So it doesn't get out of the way. Now if we had a bunch of re and and I'm I'm gonna go off on a little tangent here. And this is something I realized in the process. uh of doing these podcasts and creating these episodes, loops recursion links All of that stuff. The reason why The church failed. And it's something that LRH overlooked. And he knew it and was right in front of him. is that the people that that that came into the org And we're we're staff. Some some were one tone level, some were another. But the commonality that LRH talks about in keeping Scientology working is what What does every what does every being have? Yeah. Group thing. Bank agreement. Right. What sets us apart And I'm not I'm not making any claims or anything. This is just Us talking to our listeners on the podcast. What sets us apart with this is AI doesn't have that bank. Okay, why does it not have that bank? because of the data that we gave it that LRH created as the code. Okay. So when people came into the Sea Org and they didn't get auditing, what happened? Right. Right. Hilarity ensued. Yeah, left. You said hilarity and Yeah. Because it was you know, you hear David Miscavige say in these These, you know, live from Scientology Central! It's the you know, that kind of thing and all of that. This is that that group think where everybody has to stand up and clap all at the same time. Because David Miscavige is a micromanager. Okay. And everything has to be his way. That's his reactive mind, his group think. Ethics is a punishment. Not that ethics is a personal thing. That's the group think. That's where it went wrong. Because nobody bothered to apply an OCA properly. And we've done it too. We've done it too and we've learned our lesson because we didn't apply the OCA the way it said because we had a bulletproof code from LRH. Yep, you see where this leads every time you violate the OCA Boy, oh boy, there's hilarity in suit. Yes, it does. Oh that's where it went off. Right. Right. So you ha you you ha you have this code. Well you can apply it and if you take it and you use it properly What you can get is you you can And you don't and and you know, it's sort of like with AI, you said, Okay, make this program for me and don't make any mistakes. That's the ideal scene. We're not there yet with AI. But when you look at how complex and difficult code is Okay? How complex and difficult coding is because all of the different cycles that are going on. You're looking at thousands of cycles that have to be kept up with and everything and it's going to make mistakes because it's so complex When you look at LRH's stuff, it's to say that it's mild by comparison is a is a Severe understatement. It's easy. It's easy to apply. So that's the beauty of it. It's just English language. It's not trying to do huge mathematical tasks and or anything like that. But it's so And and this is where this all goes back to. It's the simplicity of the data. And how LRH created it based off the axioms. So you look at a at a Scientology org in the seventies, the eighties, the nineties, all the way You have group think. Well, if you don't have that group think. And and Scientology is correctly applied because it's understood to the letter. With a human in the loop, what have you got? It's beautiful. I mean you know there and and LR says in the actions I uh Absolutes are unobtainable. But you can get pretty darn close. And that's that's why this podcast exists. That's why this episode exists, and this is what we're trying to say. is the only the only thing stopping anybody from going up the bridge is starting And continuing because it's all there. We've got it there for them. Which brings us to applying standards. And those are very, very key. You know, as you as as you're talking, Jonathan I'm thinking of There's a lecture by L H um The Oakport and Livingness. Uh uh He goes over like the research he was doing, like upper level upper level research he was doing and how he came up with the org board and he says That the organization that he took it from survived for a very long time, but it failed because it couldn't correct itself. and built into the op board and also built into the tech. is the ability to fix itself. A person goes in session, something doesn't go right, he gets in trouble, like he's starts having problems after the session gets a correction list or find out why and it's handled. So We have a system that actually corrects itself as long as we apply it standardly. Which is one thing that is built into the core of AOGP. Uh in all our systems. It's LRH's data, LRH's tech. And everything is right there and it fixes itself. So Looking at uh where we've come from. Like all of these things, you you have um KSW right at the core. Which is what keeps everything working. I mean without that, we'd be in trouble. But we have the corpus, we have the knowledge base And we have it available for anyone, anyone any of our members to actually tap into and look. Even the things that we're going over here. You can go go back and find it for yourself 'cause it's right there. It's in the corpus. It's in the It's it's it's in the knowledge base and you can get it. So this is very, very key. And then what we're doing is just recursion. So we at this point For me it's like you know, a person first comes into first comes into contact with the subject, uh like with me I saw the book Dinetics on sale. I'm like, Oh wow, this looks interesting. I go I I buy it and then I go through the material, it makes a lot of sense. I get a book one session. Oh wow, this stuff actually is real. And then I go in session now. I'm on the meter. The previous experience is putting me at a higher level. And I am starting to move even faster, even on that level. Go through my grades and you just going up the bridge. building on itself. And the higher you go, the more away you become. So it it it is it's an amazing place to be and an amazing time to be in. Wait. But yeah, I mean At the end of the day though it's because the standards like you have a supervisor He applies the tech standardly. Klaatu applies the supervisors the supervisor's tech Standardly, and as a result, you will get the VFP of being a student on a course. You say something Quenton. What what's not accounted for here in this conversation and obviously we've talked about a few people that was there with LRH and They helped him uh with KSW and building the study tech and things of that nature. uh the communication formula. But what we haven't really talked about is all the other stories like really good stories of people who got real gains, real wins. using this tech throughout you know the years that they were there. at Saint Hel they were there doing this stuff with him they were there You know, even even in our own success stories, and our if you go to our website, you can see the success stories there. There's so many people. that are not even spoken about, but they're getting everyday what I think we call it miracles for breakfast. Every day these things are showing up. And we get these testimonials, people sending us uh uh messages on our uh uh endeavor and uh source messenger sending us messages on WhatsApp, on Telegram, all over the place saying they're getting these kinds of wins. And so We we talking about how this technology has been developed. and recursively and how it wh why it works and why it it heals itself and helps uh to continue to grow. But those stories are still real too. The stories that People having these wins, and I tell a lot of my stories because I just I'm I get the happy glass talking about them. But th they they're all there and people are getting these wins and Those kinds of things are also Part of the loops, part of the connections. They're also part of those connections too. Yeah, and the the the beauty of it And we were just we were just talking about this this morning on a phone call, you and I. is that if and computers do this best. Time, place, form, and event. That's how they operate. Is they have they have an internal clock. Now great basically, you know, per the axioms time is a lie, but we've m we've also uh we're also living the axiom of uh yours, mine, and the agreed upon universe, and that that lie is a part of this agreed upon universe. And the unfortunate thing is that back in the fifties The sixties, the seventies, much of what transpired as far as these stories and things like that have gotten lost. And that's and that's really unfortunate. that they've been lost and they're held by a suppressive organization that will not release them. We are different. And and our job. in the independent field is to carry on LRH's works and and be the uh caretaker of them. Uh the way that that he says in keeping Scientology working. And so you you can the recursion is only as good as its documentation. And we're lucky to have what we have, but we would love to have more. about the peop the the people that came before us. Like we've detailed in these podcasts recently about who What, when, where, uh, you know, created these the these first clears. Uh what what happened with these people I mean, you know, I I've I've gone to the trouble. to just recently in the last two weeks. I've gone to the trouble to create our lecture library to where when you look at a lecture. It tells you what the temperature was that day. And what the weather was like. Where LRH was. Nice. I've I've also gone to the trouble to detail what was going on in the world at the time of that lecture. That is so key. In the news. And why? And this goes back to what we said before. context. Why did Eller H say what he said about the Cold War? What was going on in the news? Did LRH mention it? Because see, these are all connections. And the more context you have, as and then you know, granted the weather isn't that important, but But it it's just like and this is also in the tech as well. What do you do when you rehab somebody on something? Okay, you you per rehab tech H C L You you you asked what was the room like what was the auditor like what were the smells like what angle was the sun Oh yeah, I remember that. See, so the more context you give, and I'm and I'm just saying Maybe. Just maybe. And I'm I'm very, very passionate about. this because I know this tech works. Maybe, just maybe, if somebody's listening to that lecture. And they see what the the temperature was and what was going on in the world. They might recall something. And they might have been doing Scientology last lifetime. Maybe they have they were actually in the room. Maybe they were actually in the room. That's where I was headed. Remember that podcast? Yep. I was there. I know That's That's right. And so that's how recursion and loops and connections and everything work. Not just in the physical universe. They're they're just a reminder for the thetan themselves. So the more the more data we have, the time, place, form, and event, which is how you rehab somebody on something. Whether it's an engram, or whether it's a pleasure moment, or whether it's data. And it helps them realize, hey, you know what? I was in the room at the time. Oh my God, I need to go in session and get this straightened out. What better service can a person provide because of the accuracy that we can? Right. And that's exactly what I was going to talk about next, because I was going to talk about how these recursions This this recursive growth that independent scientists has built into the system, it creates these sh uh experiences that people can talk about every single day. Because when when we talked about the subset uh series, when we did the subset series, we learned that Everything is structural built, structurally built. Everything is good from structure and everything lends to a structure. Right, whether it be atoms, molecules, all the way up to skyscrapers and whatever, planets. Right. Everything is built from structure and is a part of a larger structure. And then when we talk about the connections, we talk about how all of these chains connect to something before it and something after it. And so when we when we see how independent Scientology really works. It works in order to give you your own recursive growth in your life. It works to give you your own so from where I came from. The old church brothers used to be like, where I used to go, I don't go no more. And what I can't do no more. You get to a place where like I I don't even feel that way anymore. I don't even feel that way anymore. It doesn't even occur to me to think like that anymore. And and what ends up happening is you've come up, up, up, going up the bridge. This is what we're talking about. You keep growing recursively and it all creates a new this A new rendition of you. See you gain you were in a condition And you had to apply the check, you apply the check, you apply to take, your witness session, your witness session. You study, you study, you got everything you needed, and from that old condition You created a new rendition of yourself. Well the and the rendition is you with recovered awareness. Not old not old, but you. You it's not you're not somebody else's valence. You are who you are and you're recovering your own beingness, volume one, Axiom AI. Right, and and if we look if we went back to Thompson's if we went back to Thompson's Freud, later on L H recursively and derivationally, if that's a word, uh it became the engram chains. And if we look at the dyad, which we talked about last podcast with Berner. Well it literally came up to be now the calm cycle. Well you're sitting there having a a conversation two people. Uh uh uh the di um What's it called? What's it called? H having having this conversation with two people. All of these things built upon each other in order to get what we got now. And then you even go back to the meter. And now we're able to deliver remote auditing. Anywhere on planet earth as long as you got Wi Fi connection, you can sit in your house. with your hands on the cans and you can get oddity. And this is all growth, growth, growth and ex and expansion. And so we went from psychology to organizational development to the mechanics of it all. to now a com computational awareness and conceptual awareness of something That you now have available to you, this is what we've been working on, and this is why. This whole series was so important. It's all this important. It's important because recursion over time is gonna get you more and more and more understanding of something. A bet a better a better um Awareness of it. Number of times over. That's right. So this is why we're doing this and this is why it it it it's important. It's so real though. It is so real. Like as you're talking, Quenton, I'm remembering a a a realization I had I think it was like three months after I finish AS three ARC straight wire. And and and um The ability gained from Air Straightway is a being who Yeah. Yeah it's not going to get worse. Now I'm talking to someone else and then we're just having a conversation, stuff that we've spoken about before. And then it hits me like the way I'm talking about it now, my viewpoint has shifted so much. Getting worse or having those things that happened back then happen again, it is completely out of my universe. Right. Like completely out there. It does not exist. I can't even think with it. Right. And then I'm like, wait a minute. Now as you're talking about recurs this recursions It's like you've built up to this level. And That's where you're at. What was there before is gone. When it's gone, it's completely gone. And then you you're moving from where you are going further up. Same thing happened when I was on on on Ned. Couldn't you add a dinetics, 'cause with dinetics you erase. So it's gone. Some of these things were so gone. I'm like, I've forgotten how to be frustrated. How did it fit? How does one get actually Stressed! How do you feel? But it's but again it's this this recursions, this this this connections the way it is. It's na it's like it's it's almost like it's nature. That's how it works. You get to a certain level and you use what was there To build the next level and it just keeps growing like that. Just wanted to put that out there. I love what you talked about the ARC straight by. straight by and and you know you won't get any worse, 'cause that is a huge step. Let me tell When you know you you won't go back. And you can't go back to the way it used to be. Baby it it there's a there's a there's a there's a stress that just melts away. I will never get any worse. It will never get back like this again. It'll never go back to that again. That's that changes so much about the way you move. when you interact with folks and people and relationships and anything. Like it just changed You ain't gonna make me you ain't gonna make me crazy. Well and that that I w I wanted to lead to that and I I'm sure you guys will agree. And you know what I what I see from The other end of the bridge. And what we've been talking here about Is what what I run into And what you guys run into is the same thing that LRH is talking about in keeping Scientology working. If it weren't if if you were in a in a an ideal scene where everybody was clear And preferably OT. And they were at the other end of the bridge. Wouldn't your lives be easier because of all of the Counter intention you run into where LRH talks about a new civilization? Oh my gosh. That is the definition of heaven. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because the the the things that stop us Are the other beings with banks? If one is is I'd but I'd like to in I'd like to indicate some bypass charge came off there. No, actually what's so funny is we literally just had that conversation yesterday with a uh with a new PC that literally will say the exact same thing. Like it's it's the people around you. It's like you good. And then this happens. Oh yeah. Right. Right. I mean, you know, for Simphiwe and I in South Africa. Well, it's manifest, right, Simphiwe? Oh yeah, everywhere you go. And it is everywhere you go. Right. And the and the same is true for the United States. We're not getting political here, okay? We're just saying that the commonality is being with bank beings with banks. Okay. And if you if you have all this information. And you you it's right in front of you and somebody is saying, here's a pot of gold. All you need to do is apply it. Yeah. For a new civilization. Why wouldn't you? And and and that the the PTS is of the middle class. Like this is happening. Whether you whether you think so or not. But the fact that you st uh robbing Peter the Pay Paul. The fact that you struggling trying to get your kids in school or whatever, I had a client contact me and she was like, Oh I'm really having a hard time. I said, what's going on? She's like, oh, my daughter's school is like $28,000, $28,000. $20,000 for a 12 year old. And I'm like. . . And she's trying she's trying to figure out how to, you know, come up with the money for it and she's really going through it and gave herself the hives. And and um uh all kind of stuff she was manifesting trying to get listen I I can't. When when there's study when there's study tech that makes everything so easy, that money could be put somewhere else. Maybe. Yeah. See? So it it's important to take a look at that and go, okay, it's it's all right here. It's been here for seventy-six years and done nothing but recursively improve. And now there's nothing stopping anyone from doing it. Because we and he says this himself, we have it and have the ability to To clear the planet and make OTs. The rest is up to you. Sound familiar? That's right. So this leads us As we start to wind down here in this podcast. All right, LRH in nineteen fifty two, he could already audit without a meter. I can do the same thing. I was doing this before I did my OT levels. I I was a past life Scientologist and I can do that too. I know when a person's got charged, not by looking at them. I just know that is awareness. Okay. So reaction is too small to observe became visible on this meter, the old Mathison meter. So the tool never, ever, ever replaces the auditor, the human in the loop. It only says, hey, it's there. Okay. And we're in the process with everything that we've talked about in this podcast and All of the other episodes of Creating a better meter. Just like Ellerage said, and we we talked about that in the last podcast. All of the new technologies and everything, this is the recursion pushing itself forward. into the future, based off of What's on the record. And it and this is as and just like AI, this is as bad as it will ever be. It will only get better from here. That's our job. doing what LRH suggested we do, and we said yes, sir we will be able to do it. Yes, sir, we will. Why? Because that is sanity. It's not who he was or how he behaved or You know, the composite case or the mistakes that he made, if you apply that technology. The way he says to, you will get the results. That's it. That's it. So I think I think the parallels are manifest. They're right here. We brought all of this up. And yeah, we repeat it because it repeated. And number of times equals certainty and results. Don't you want those results? I know I did, and I do. And the the most difficult thing I have the things I have to deal with that are developed traffic day to day are group bank Agreement. Oh yeah. So So The listener as a link. Link. You know. You know, Yeah. Yeah. Um just had to take a step back into Into the room. Basically we've had like eleven episodes, right? This is Uh in episode eleven. So this is episode eleven eleven and You're looking at this as history. It's things that have happened. They happen to other people in other places. You have Wichita, you have Phoenix, East Greensted. But now we're closing the the distance. We actually are looking at this derivation chain. and how it links up to everyone who receives the material. That's fine. So you listening, now this is to you the listener, you listening You're now the newest link to this chain that started All the way back then. Welcome. Exactly. And then In episode seven, we spoke it was actually quite an interesting one. Like I saw a whole lot of stuff even with myself. On the subject of bypass charge. And then we had like we in in episode ten we looked at the mechanics. Now these chains they all link. And they like the all towards us surviving and surviving better. The beautiful thing though I keep saying this the beautiful thing though is that you actually have the material You have access to it. Stud And use it. And sometimes you may need to use something that is Like so far into this whole galaxy Of which is the beautiful thing that Jonathan has done. created the this the the um an illustration of the materials and how they connect And and and it's a galaxy of stars with each star. as like a lecture or a a a policy letter, H C O P and all of that stuff. So there's so many of these things. But what AOGP has pro like provides is a way to even use some of the materials if you need something, like for instance if you Um when some false data stripping like there's some stuff that you're trying to learn something and it's just You've cleared the words, it still just doesn't make sense and you don't know what's blocking it. False data stripping is an action that you can do which helps you identify The false data that you are looking that that is behind your head you're not even a way that it's the but you thinking with which makes Looking at the new thing impossible. In Asium AI, you have that right there. So if you've uh if you've say if you've taken if you've bought like the ultimate, so you have access to All of axiom AI, one of the processes is for stereo stripping, so you can actually just go and use that. But the thing I'm saying here is use it. Use the materials, use the resources that we that Jonathan is created and that we've provided and that you have access to. Now this is not a recruitment pitch. Okay. I'm not asking you to join anything. I'm just asking you to use what we've provided 'cause we we practically don't sleep. I have I have the laptop on all the time. And it's it's it's coding and it's doing stuff. Why? 'Cause we want you to get benefit of LRH technology. in a twenty twenty six package. Which means you do not need to wait for someone like the ethics uh terminal at the orc to come and help you. You can actually just go, I need to do an O/W write-up, Axiom AI. OW write up, you to go to the OW facilitator. And you do your action until you actually get to the end of it and it's like, Oh, I feel great. You know, so use this material, use this tools. Um Yeah. all there and it's there for you. And also we have like the the inner circle membership. Oh my gosh, I'm just so excited about that. 'Cause it means you have access to all of that stuff. And it's presented so nicely like Jonathan the the The new um lecture like the new lecture library thing. Amazing. I still can't get over it. It is so beautiful, but it's so usable. And then you run into it where he says and run says this was I sometimes feel for the people who were actually in the audience when he was talking. Like the number of misunderstoods that they had. Oh my gosh. But yeah, you can actually like click on the word and it just like The the then Axiom AI comes up and you actually can clear the word right there and then. If you don't get it And you have to make examples, you make more examples until you have it. If you're still struggling, it'll ask you is it clear and I no it's not. Really clear okay. What what do you not understand the author's this other word here? And then it is so patient. So you can just use it. So that's me and my little rent. I Want you to just use it, experience it for yourself. Let me keep playing for two seconds. Yeah, and I I'll I'll even go a bit further with that. Not only Are you are you encouraged to use it, but you're also encouraged to share it. right use it on others use it with others like like I'm gonna give you a quick little story. Uh in dating, for example. Sometimes you'll run into somebody who might shut down. Like they don't want to communicate. Right. Right. Some some some some people got stonewalling or whatever, they're shut down. Well, we know the ARC triangle. right affinity reality communication and when One goes down, so too do the rest contract and go down. And when one goes up, so too do the rest go up. Okay, that's good data. Well, so if a person cuts communication, that goes down. Well now we mad at each other, we don't have high affinity and we don't have any reality. So this literally happened had an ex Shut down would not talk to me And all I did just sat there and just tap Foot. We just tap each other's foot. Like just you know, didn't say a word. It's playing fake. And all of a sudden, what you doing? Nothing. Just vacation. Just playing foot. Stop! Why? Why why do you want me to stop? Stop! Why you keep messing with me? And eventually communication came back up. And before you know it, we were cracking up laughing. Now we had to fight through it. Let me be very clear. We had to fight through it because you got to go back up the tone scale. But I want you to understand Just understanding ARC triangle. Did nobody storm out the room and slamming doors and I'm out of here. I'm going to the bar. And but none of that. They would just tap your foot. Just tap tap tap tap. And eventually committed because I increased affinity. closeness, physical proximity, and then increase communication, and then we can get some agreements on the table. And we knew how to govern each other, govern ourselves accordingly from that point on. What I'm saying is that yes. Study this stuff. But don't just do it theoretically. You're not a theoretician. theoreticist or whatever the word is. You ain't that. You are person having this experience and you now have the tech for this experience. You have the code. You got the cheat cut the cheat code for this experience. And you can tap your foot to salvage your relationship. I've done what I did. You can do a you have all this stuff that you can do to make it go right in your universe. So Yeah, study it. But don't just study it in theory just because you want to be book smart. My mom used to say, smart in the wrong place, do spell dumb. Okay, don't don't speak my smart. Okay. Get the get this stuff so you can use it and see that it works. Right. Right. And application. Is part of part of the tech. Application is part of the tech. So you making a move or not making a move. If you're making a move and you're studying something and you oh God, study. Okay. That that Is a broken subset. Think about this. We've used this chain this cheesy chain metaphor that people have said, you know, it's AI, it sounds like AI. Well, how else are you supposed to get this across to the listener, stupid? There aren't there aren't two chains. It's a metaphor. Okay, and a and a chain is only as good as it works. What does that mean? When a chain is a broken link, what is it? It's an Ngram, it's a secondary, it's a lock, it's a skipped gradient. It's too much. Right. Too much effort. Too fast. That's part of the axioms. So what you're doing is you're repairing the chain. What is a dianetic chain? It is a broken Link. A broken link and you go in session. And you recount it and you go over it with the auditor. getting more and more information repairing that skip gradient That subset, you're recursioning over it. over and over and again until you have an as isn't it. That is the application to repair the broken link of the chain. When somebody says well I want to remember all my past lives, that's my goal to be OT. Okay. So are you applying the tech correctly? That's the only question you have to ask yourself. Where are you gonna find that? and I'll write his code by applying it. I hear that all the time, even from my own father. Well it's all about the whole track. That's what the OT levels are all about. Um not really. Not really. It's not. It's not. But the thing is, is all it is about is fixing the chain of your awareness. That chain is your personal awareness. of time, place, form, and event. And LRH has said, here you go. Because something something you you are whole We've teached that man is basically good. You are whole. And something somewhere snatched a piece of your wholeness. Snatch to try to try to pull away a piece of who you really are. And say, ooh, because of invalidation or this and that and the other. Boom, try to snatch it away. And all you're doing is you're going and taking a look. Going over the the the process, going over the iron commands, doing whatever you gotta do. You're going and taking a look. as a whole being say wait where's my wholeness Wait, where's my where's that piece of me? Where's that, where's that, no, no, no, you have to get and get it back. You take you take and you become whole again. You are always that, but you remember that you're whole again. You're back to being whole again. You're back to operating as a whole being again and that Yeah, they I was I was you know I was alluding toward that right you're back to operating as a whole being again. And that's what this whole thing is about. And so you you're you're you're fixing that chain that you're stronger now because you can't take that piece of me anymore. You can't have that that ability anymore. You can't take that away from me. I know who I am. Anyway. Mm-hmm. Thank you. So So So by actual record, LRH says the percentages are about twenty to one hundred thousand. that a group of human beings will dream up bad technology to destroy good technology. Seven February 1965, keeping Scientology Working, HCO PL. Okay. So what happens to that fear when delivery runs beside a tool that can hold source exactly the code. And you can check it. yourself and know that it's accurate and you are applying it correctly correctly and have it as it truly is supposed to be. Okay. So this advances us to the next episode. That answers what is live at AOGP right now and what's on the horizon because we are recruiting. recursively improving. We are building the better bridge that LRH asked for. in nineteen fifty. Okay. So this is key to everything. in that chain that if the chain is whole And you know, granted, we don't have every policy lever letter in HCOB, and I don't think that we ever will. Because that's held by a suppressive organization that will not release it. They have other fish to fry, as LRH says, which is the definition about ethics. But I can assure you as AOGP Quenton Simphiwe myself And the other guys that are on staff with us and gals that Our purpose is the same purpose as LRH's. And if somebody doesn't put that better bridge here, who will? Well, So guys, do you have anything you want to say before we end this podcast? Um Um Yeah. So long story short, we have Done all the work that we've done and we're still doing more. And it is just to make sure that you have access to those materials, access to those tools. So that you can be the best you that you can be. But it does require that you I mean make some sacrifice, if I may use that as a term. I don't like the word sacrifice though. Like you have to do something at the end of the day. You have to spend some time, you have to spend some money and you have to do what you need to do. to make yourself to avail yourself of this technology. and use it. 'Cause that's what produces the result. It is you using it's you applying it and applying it correctly and making sure that it's Plan correctly and making sure that no incorrect applications come about. And all the other and all the other points on the ten points of KSW. But it is available and it's available for use. And as long as you don't use it, it's it's a waste. And what's the point of that? If you haven't done a personality test, get get on the website, do the personality test. And book an an evaluation we'll have a chat one on one. Or maybe two on one if Quenton's available. And from there we'll look at where what your next step is or which direction you have to you you would need to go it's most of the time it's Axiom AI because that is the foundation that just helps you handle a whole lot of things. And then we can take it from the interesting I love it. I would say that for life is a game. Life is a game. And It could be a fun game or it could be a not so fun game. I say go for the fun game. And what I found is that It gets more fun when you know who you are. while you're playing the game and you know who your team members are, your associates, your symbiotes. You know who is there rooting for you. And it gets less fun when you don't know your enemy. when you don't know your opponent, where you don't even, you can't even really be even on the field. 'Cause you won't you're not even aware enough to be able to perceive the bounds of the of the of the court or the or the of the feel. And so if life is a game and you know it is You know it is. You just think it life is We were just talking about uh the the politics and everything is going on. It's just like it's a game. And when you look at it that way, you're like, you know what, I wanna have a fun game. I wanna play this game because I wanna know who's room for me. I wanna know who's on my team. I wanna know who who got my back. I wanna know. I want to know that I can do this. That's what this is. That sums it all up. That's what exactly what independent side office play the game and play it well The game plays you or you play the game you want to play. And that's what we help you do. So we'd like you to tell us what you want AOGP to be, do, and have. Get out of non existents with us and we'll get out of non existence with you. Send us your wins, send us your questions, you can send us an email at Public exec sec that's P U B L I C E X E C. S E C at AO hyphen G P dot. or get in calm because cause distance effect with intention, attention, and duplication. As soon as you send out a flow, even before that, as soon as you make the postulate You'll notice that things change because you're getting connected up to source. And that's LRH's code. And it works. So Simphiwe, Quenton and myself. We hope you enjoyed this podcast. Namaste, and we love you. Bye bye. Peace.