The Room Where the Grades Were Born: Connections Part VII — Independent Scientology

Hi, and welcome to another Scientology Outside of the Church podcast. This is episode 7, season 14, continuing on our Connections series. We have been very, very, very busy working on the new website. And, Quenton, what can you tell us about the two-week free trial that we have going that's now open on AOGP real quick before we get started? No, absolutely. So we have officially started our open house for AOGP International, the remaster. And so we're really excited about it. If you are on our lines, if you're on our email lines, then you will have gotten an email pertaining to that, and you're more than welcome to come in and be a part of the Inner Circle free trial, okay? It's a two-week free trial once you start. And once you get in, you can see everything that we're building out for you, all of the bells and whistles that are coming along with this new remaster. 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And we're going to go ahead and get going on this. And again, this is episode 7 of 12 of the Connection series. The title of this one is The Room Where the Grades Were Born. Picture this, Saint Hill, 1963. This is where it all starts. So last time, we were in Phoenix, 1954, with LRH crediting 10,000 years of the Veda and the Buddhists. This one's a lot closer to home, folks. Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, England, 1963, the briefing course. And I want to start this with something he says to the students in February of that year, because it tells you what kind of place this was. LRH says in the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course, Lecture 268, Rundown on Processes, 19 Feb. He says, and you want to get up there into that Z unit and get your goal whistled up and so forth. You won't get any place playing around in these lower units. I love that way. He says, get your goal whistled up. So he's ribbing them a little. Okay. The course was split into units and they had letters. And Z was where you wanted to be. So it's nice because he sets it up like a route. It's like, you know, step by step. It's you didn't just walk into Z a month later. And then he lays like, he actually lays out the whole thing so you can actually see it. Like it was like he says, he studies the Y unit. Nothing but study in the Y unit gets all ready to go into the Z unit and runs goals. So there's no skip gradients. So Y is the study. And then Z is where you actually are running goals on each other. Yeah, well, I was just saying that this then is not just a hall full of beginners, because if you go back to this, you'll see this is at Saint Hill Manor. These are trained auditors coming together from all over the world. They're living there for months, auditing each other on brand new stuff that LRH is discovering or has discovered and pulling out. Some of this even just days old. So he'll come back out and he'll say, OK, this is how we're going to run this. And they'll run it and see how it flies. If it works, it works. If it don't, it don't. And this was really, really interesting. Yeah. Hot off the presses. Days old, sometimes less, like you said. Yeah. And if you think about it, though, you could be auditing something on Tuesday that somebody only worked out that Monday before, right? Monday, like the day before. And there's no textbook on it. You are the textbook. They're creating this tech right there in front of you. And then you go into the lecture and there's LRH talking about your session. Oh, my gosh. Right in front of everybody. No pressure. That's right. And the results were public. Same lecture in February. The first thing he tells the room is this. And this is a quote from the same lecture. And amongst these good newses, we found a goal in Z-Unit today. First time ever. So, like sports results, there you have it. Front page. Yeah. I actually pictured it like a scoreboard on the wall. You know, I've been in sales most of my life. And so, you see, like, there's this, like, who has the most auditing hours? Who's doing the next process? Who's doing the next session? That's how I see it. Like, this scoreboard on the wall. Like, who's in next? Put me in, coach. I'm ready to play. Right. And here's why I'm making a point of the room. When a subject is being built in a building full of skilled people, auditors in the making, all auditing every day, all reporting back, and then the bulletins come down from LRH's desk, sometimes the same week, if not the same day, in some cases later on, the question, who came up with what gets hard? Really hard. Yeah. And you've got two kinds of evidence for it. You've got the paper with a date on it, you have the bulletins, the tapes, and then you've got people's memories in that room written down a long time afterwards. Which aren't the same thing, no. No, they're not. They're not. Right. And we're going back to use both. And we're going to tell you which one is which as we go along here. Because this one's different from the rest of the season. Freud, Korzybski, Mathison, the Veda, LRH named all those guys himself, subsets, recursion, loops, he put them on our record, in this podcast, and in these lectures, and in his books. This time, the claim we're making from inside the building, old Saint Hill, from the students in LRH himself. From the room, inside the room itself, yeah. Right. And the subject is something every one of us uses every week. And we've talked about this in podcasts before, folks. bypassed charge. And I'll be honest with you. As a case supervisor, if you ask 10 auditors to define bypassed charge, you're going to get about four answers, unfortunately. So, before we get anywhere near who found it, we're going to make sure everybody actually knows what it is. So, here it is. Charge. Charge is the force that's stored up in past incidents. The stuff that makes the individual move. Bypass just means you went past it. So, bypassed charge is charge that got stirred up and then nobody found it. Oh, so there's two halves to it. Like, it gets woken up and then it gets missed. Right. That's it. Woken up, bypassed, missed. I mean, if you think about it, if it's never woken up, then it's just sitting there. Like, unbothered, not bothering anyone, just sitting there. It's not doing anything right now. And if it's woken up, it's found, it discharges, and the person feels better. It's when it's woken up and left. That's where the trouble is. Yeah. He got a really good picture of it. And I even think later that summer, I think it was July 24th, 1963, in the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course, Lecture 318, ARC Breaks and the Comm Cycle. He says, now, it wouldn't become bypassed charge unless it were at least slightly detected. You understand? Somebody had to drag a magnet within a few feet of it. So, that's exactly how it kind of starts to pull out. You drag a magnet within a few feet of it. It pulls it up. Right? It doesn't necessarily have to touch it, but it gets bypassed. And then, therefore, it's bypassed charge. Right. And the auditor usually doesn't even know he did it. That's the point. You ask for one incident, and you're close to another one. And you've stirred the one you weren't asking about. Okay. And then, what happens? You know, it's interesting because when I even think about, like, sessions and, you know, dealing with certain people, like, you can tell when you hit, like, something just got turned on right there. Something got bypassed. But we can stop on ARC break for a second. Because people say so much of its loss and its meaning, ARC, Affinity Reality Communication, if you're not familiar, ARC stands for Affinity Reality and Communication. How much you like something, how much you can agree with something that is real, and how much you actually are talking to it or communicating with it. And an ARC break is a sudden drop in one of those things. So, it's like you were fine a minute ago, and now you're not. Yeah. You were fine a minute ago, and now you're not. That is exactly the feeling. Yeah. So, and that's what missed charge gets you. So, the PC gets cranky, critical. They go quiet on you. Wants to end the session. Gosh, look at the time. Right. I need to get out of here. Hang on a second. And he puts it as flatly as you can put anything. This is June 1963. LRH says in the SHSBC, Saint Hill Special Briefing Course Lecture 300, Engram Chain Running, he says sun rises, sun sets, charge gets bypassed, PC ARC breaks. Is that predictable? As sure as the sun will rise and the sun will set. If you get some bypassed charge, the PC will be ARC broken. And it happens all the time. It's that predictable. Miss the charge, you'll get the upset. Not maybe. You'll get it, and you'll see it on the meter. Which kind of flips it. Because if the upset always comes from missed charge, then the upset is actually telling you something. Right. And that's the part I want every auditor listening to hear. And this is very important. Don't miss this. This comes from the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course 297, Handling ARC Breaks. This was the 28th of May, 63. LRH says the reason you can't get any place with what you're doing is because you have bypassed charge. And therefore, look on the ARC break as a blessing in disguise. And I can confirm that. Now, he says in the next sentence, it tells you even more accurately than the meter that you have bypassed some charge because you're going to see those indicators. Yeah, and so after the whole episode we did on the meter itself, like the ARC break is, you can see those indicators more accurately than just looking at the meter. Right. Two episodes ago, we spent an hour on the meter. And here he's saying the PC upset is a better reading than the needle. Indicators are very important. Oh, yeah. And there's actually a reason for that. I mean, he gives it in August. When the PC is really ARC broken, the meter goes quiet on everything except one thing. And he says, and this is from 14 August, 1963, Auditing Tips is the title of the lecture. He says, a severely ARC broken PC then does not read on the meter except on the bypassed charge, which caused the ARC break. So everything goes flat. The only thing that reads is the one thing that you missed. Yeah. Anybody who's audited has seen that. You've got a PC who's upset and you're reading all over the place and then nothing's reading. Literally, nothing is reading. And you go, is this guy even on the cans? And then you hit the right line and bang, you've got to look for that ARC break. Yeah, you can see this just in an everyday regard. I mean, I think we might have all had this, whether in session or out of session. There's two ways an upset can end. Somebody can calm you down, be nice to you. It's okay. It's okay. You know, we're going to get through this. And you go home and it's still kind of sitting there. You know, you're still like, yeah, I get it. But something's still kind of turned on and it comes back. Or somebody says the exact thing that was missed and you say, yeah, that's it. That's it right there. That's exactly what I was feeling. And then it's gone. It doesn't come back. No, it doesn't come back. It doesn't come back because those two feel completely different from the inside. You can tell when somebody really spotted or got your awareness duplicated. It's totally different. Yeah. And I think that's something spiritual. And the second one is being really understood, really duplicated. Somebody actually saw what happened to you within you, what's going on there. And it's not there, there. It's all right. Sympathy, sympathy, sympathy. Right? They saw it. They recognize it. They see what it is. You know, they're not crazy. You know, you're not crazy. And they got it. And that's what it was. That's a spiritual as-isness. Boom. Right. Exactly. The first one is managing the upset. The second one is finding the charge. And as a case supervisor, when you see the first one in a worksheet, the auditor is smoothing it over. You know you're going to see that PC again. They're going to have the same upset, different day. So, given on book one, without a meter, you can actually see this. It's in the person's face. The face changes when you've got it. You don't need anyone to tell you. Right. So, that's the whole mechanism, basically. Woken up, missed, upset. Find it. Indicate it. It's gone. And the question, in this whole season of connections, keeps asking, we keep asking, LRH keeps asking, and auditors back then did too, before he figured this out. Did that come out of nowhere? And it didn't. It's got a family tree. And most of the tree is in print and on tape, basically. That's right. That's right. And the year before, if you go back to the start, Dianetics, 1950, right? The basic idea already is that the incident holds force, and contacting them lets it go. Contact them over and over and over when you're running an engram. That's charge. And that's the stuff we trace back to Vienna in episode two. Oh, and restimulation is right there, too. Like, early 50s. Something in the environment or in session stirs up some old material, and the person doesn't even know it happened. Right. So you've got charge, and you've got charge getting stirred up. Two pieces. Two pieces. Okay. The third piece shows up in 1962, and it's the closest relative of it all. The infamous Missed Withhold. Which is the best line in the whole volume. It does. February 1962, LRH says, this is from Missed Withholds. And this is in the technical volume, 5, 1962 to 64, page 20 precisely. A Missed Withhold is a withhold that existed, was tapped, touched on, triggered, if you want to use that word, re-stimulated is our word, and was not pulled. Hell hath no screams like a withhold scorned. I was just going to say, hell hath no screams like a withhold scorned. Come on, man. That's got funny. But I mean, you listen to the first part. It existed, was tapped, was not pulled. That's the same shape. It was there. You got near it, but you didn't get it. Right. You woke it up and then missed it. Yeah, I woke it up and then missed. Just with a withhold instead of with any charge. Right. And the joke's not only a joke, because anybody who's audited has seen it. The guy you almost asked and then didn't is angrier than the guy you never asked at all. This is important. Yeah, because now it's been touched. It's alive. It's like a live wire. And they can feel it. They can feel something going on. They might not be able to spot it exactly, but they can feel something's going on. And yeah, this is so good. Wow. Yeah. Exactly is the precise word. Now, you see it in families all the time. Somebody almost says something at a family dinner or a family reunion, and then the subject changes. Now, we ain't talking about that. You know, we can't bring up Uncle Johnny, you know. And the rest of the night is kind of weird. Nobody knows why it's weird. It's just weird, because something nearly came out that didn't. It's like, and it's in every family. Every family. I'm saying a lot, but I ain't saying everything. Yeah. Thanksgivings are a lot like that. And Christmas. You see it all over TV. Right. And three months after that, in May 62, capital letters, it becomes a rule. LRH says, and ARC Breaks Missed Withholds, Red Volume number five, page 58. He says, after some months of careful observation and tests, I can state conclusively that, and this is in all capitals, all ARC Breaks stem from Missed Withholds. So, if you've got an ARC Breaks, there's a Missed Withhold behind it that needs to be pulled below that, an overt, and then, if you want to take it further, subsets, a misunderstood concept, word, and symbol. Wow. I mean, just keep that one in your head. All ARC Breaks stem from one thing. Because you're going to hear almost the same sentence a year later. And notice he says it after some months of careful observation and tests. So, he's telling you very clearly, like, this is not just an opinion. We figured this out. All ARC Breaks stem from Missed Withholds. Yeah, and that's what I like about it. He gives you the evidence. He gives you, literally, the receipts, which is pretty much what we're trying to do with his record in a new unit of time over 60 years ago. Wow. I mean, this is in 62. That's when the answer is Withholds. And then you go through to 63. The course is deep in goals and items. The Z-unit stuff. And then there's a bulletin in March that says, in that kind of auditing, the upsets come from a wrong goal or a wrong item. So, now you've got two explanations sitting side by side. Yeah. So, you got Withholds in ordinary auditing. And then you have goals and items in goals auditing. So, a Missed Withhold shows up, can show up in ordinary auditing. And then missing a person's goals or missing an item can show up in goals auditing. Yeah. And if you are a student in that room auditing all day, you might look at those two and go, hang on. They're the same thing. So, in both cases, something was there. It got stirred up. And then it got missed. Right. And that's exactly the next step. Not Withholds. Not goals. Any charge at all that got woken up and passed over. The pattern's in print for over a year before it gets its name. So, that was the string on the sweater that LRH eventually pulled. Yeah. And it's kind of beautiful, actually, because the whole season, we've been watching stuff coming to the subject from outside, whether it be Freud, Korzybski, Korzybski, the Veda. And here, in this subject, feeding on itself, this one bulletin builds on the last, all building up. So, this Saint Hill Special Briefing Course is good. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I think it makes it easier to learn, honestly. Because if you meet bypassed charge, cold, it's just jargon. If you've gone up the steps, charge, restimulation, missed withhold, missed item, then by the time you get there, it's kind of obvious. Yeah. And every one of those steps has a date and has LRH's name on it through that research, basically. The idea was moving in public in one direction through 62 and 63. And what the paper doesn't say is what was said in the corridors between one bulletin and the next. No. It can't. Now, hold on to that. So, the tape the next night. Okay. So, here it is, HCO Bulletin, 27 May, 1963, Saint Hill. It's on the bulletin. It's on the letterhead. Star rated, which means you had to know it cold and pass a check out on it. Okay. They were testing all this stuff out in 63 before the student hat tapes came out. And before anything else, right under the title, there's this. And this comes from Cause of ARC Breaks in the Technical Volume 5, 6264, page 281. LRH says, Lucky is the PC whose auditor has understood this HCO Bulletin, and lucky is the auditor. May his own case run well. That sounds like a blessing, like lucky is the PC and the auditor who understands this. That's how you open a sermon right there. Yeah. It is kind of. He knows what he's handling. Okay. Then the rules. He says, I have just narrowed the reason for ARC Breaks in auditing actions down to only one source. And he goes on to say, rule, all ARC Breaks are caused by bypassed charge. The bypassed charge is the missed withhold. And he says, the next rule, to turn off an ARC Breaks, find and indicate the correct bypassed charge. It's that simple. So, there it is. May 62. All ARC Breaks came from missed withholds. May 63. All ARC Breaks are caused by bypassed charge. Yeah. Same sentence, but just a bigger box. It opens up everything. Yep. Same sentence. Bigger box. Exactly. Right. And then he gives examples. And the first one is still the best teaching example I know. Hear me, as Quenton says. LRH says, example, looking for the PC's first automobile accident, finding the fifth instead, and trying to run the fifth accident as the first accident. Which it isn't. Which it isn't. Yeah. The fifth accident is not the first. Exactly. So, accidents one through four are sitting there. They're stirred up from looking around in one's bank or whatever. They're stirred up. And nobody's touching them. And so, you think you're getting the result, but you're not, because all that other stuff, all that bypassed charge is sitting there. Right. That's your magnet. You dragged it right past four of them. Wow. And the PC doesn't know that's what's wrong, right? That's the part people miss. Yeah. He says that on the next page. The PC will tell you why he's upset. And it's usually not why. Because if you knew it was wrong with him, it wouldn't be wrong with him. That's your job as the auditor to find. And then there's this line, which is the cure for the calm them down, quote unquote, problem Quenton was talking about. LRH says, it is not do that heals the ARC break, but pointing towards the correct charge. And this is the same lecture. So, not do, but point. Right. Not do. You don't fix it. You don't apologize your way out. You don't run a bunch of stuff. You find it, the correct bypassed charge, and you point at it. You indicate the bypassed charge. I'd like to indicate there's bypassed charge there. And you see this on the meter. There's a tiny example of that on that page. I really like. And it's the shortest case history ever written. Now, this is from the lecture. It's from the HCOB of 27 May, 63. Cause of ARC breaks. It's in Vol 5 of the red volumes. And then he says, example. PC refused to come to session, session, session, auditor on the telephone says, there's a more basic incident or RI or GPM. PC comes to session. Just two sentences indicated, pieces come to session. Yep. No persuading. No, come on. You paid for it. And he just names what got missed. And the guy shows up. Yeah. Which tells you the upset was never about the auditor and never about the session. It was about the charge that was missed. That's the indication. Okay. Now, the very next evening, 28 May, he lectures the course on this. And the tape, this is where we got this from. The tape gives us two things right at the top. Here's almost the first thing he says. And this is from Handling ARC Breaks as well. Reports I've been getting on the Z unit for the last 24 hours, practically unprintable. Practically unprintable. Wow. Yep. There's the Z unit again. First minute, the night after the bulletin. Yeah. And then a few sentences later, he says, I discovered the common denominator to ARC Breaks. And that common denominator of all ARC Breaks, all ARC Breaks, is bypassed, the bypassed charge. Now, I want to be careful here because this matters for the rest of this episode. It's his voice. And he says, I discovered. That's LRH's account on that day in his own words. It's the strongest piece of evidence we've got in this whole episode. And it's very, very direct. Yeah. And it's clear. I mean, it's worth noticing what's not on it. He doesn't tell you about the weeks before. He doesn't say who was in session or what anybody said over tea. He makes the claim and then teaches. Yeah. And the unit reports their findings of what happened when they were in session. We don't know what was in them. Right. We don't. And that's the way that it should be. But the outcome is the same. Right. So I'm not going to guess here. Somebody could make a lot out of practically unprintable. And we're not going to do that. It tells you the Z unit was on his mind that night. That's all it tells you. Yeah, that's fair. So what we've got so far on paper is February 62 missed withholds. May 62, all ARC breaks stem from missed withholds. And March 63, gold sessions, wrong goals and items. Then 27, May 63, all ARC breaks from bypassed charge. 28, May, the lecture, the lecture I discovered, in the lecture, then Ron says, I discovered. Right. That's solid. Nothing we say later knocks any of that over. Yeah, but it's not the same as how it first came up. No. A bulletin tells you when something was issued. It doesn't tell you where it was first said out loud. So now you've got the summer of lists. And then it moves really fast. Like, it's unbelievably fast. Four weeks after the bulletin, there's a drill for it. 25 June, routine 2H. And he says it, he says this about it. R2H, however, is a training must, it's a training must before an auditor is permitted to run engrams. So it is a training must. Yeah. Okay, sorry. So this is from an HCOB, like HCOB 25 June 63, routine 2H, ARC Breaks by Assessment. Yeah. So in four weeks, it goes from, I've narrowed it down to, you can't run engrams until you can do this. Yeah. And he's training them up for that way. Exactly. Exactly. And it's got a list of questions in it. Here's how the list starts. Had an engram been missed? Had a withhold been missed? Had some emotion been rejected? Had some affection been rejected? And this is also from that, the HCOB 25 June 1963. Yeah, and it's important to note that correction lists didn't exist at this point in time. This is the first vestiges we see of that. And still, this was sort of in utero. And that he was starting to get the idea of how correction lists would work. And that wasn't introduced really until a couple of years later. So if upsets come from missed charge, and there's only so many ways charge gets missed, then you write down the ways ahead of time. You read them to the PC on the meter, and the one that reads is the one, or there could be several, that you missed. Right. And so it's a prepared search. Instead of guessing, it's like a pilot's checklist. And the pilot knows how to fly, they still have to read the list. Because the one thing you can skip is the one thing that gets you. And you don't have to be a genius to use it. It's like, that's the point, though. Like, a new auditor with the list can find what a really experienced one finds by feel. Yeah. And it's kind of the whole genius of the tech and the whole idea of it. Because it depends on, it doesn't depend on how brilliant you're feeling that day. It actually depends on what's on the list. You know how to do it. And this is why they were actually moving so quickly and getting all this data out. Yeah, and instead of sitting there going, what do I do, what do I do, he's come up with all of the order of operations from the most important that needs to be handled first to the least, top to bottom, subsets. Yeah, and that same bulletin, 25 June 1963, it's the same bulletin that sets a speed for it, which I think tells you a lot about the expectations in that building. And he says, an ARC break should be disposed of about every 15 minutes of auditing time. Longer shows ineptitude. Longer shows ineptitude, wow. Ouch. Yeah, now that's at that time, and we need to keep that in that frame of reference. He doesn't soften it, but the point is, with the list in your hand, it should be quick. Without it, you're guessing. And guessing takes all session and could bypass more charge. Yeah, that's so true. And to think, 10 days later, 5 July, there's a whole bulletin of lists. And this is where it gets interesting, because they've got names. You've got L1, L2, L3, L4. Yeah, already in July of 63. These got recursively better as time goes on, like I was saying before. These were the rough outlines that he recursively improved as these lists got better. But already in July of 63. But already in July of 63. Yeah, already in July. And the bulletin says this about them. It says, these lists are valuable. Intelligently used, they put an auditor or Scientology staff or executive at cause over all session ARC breaks and Scientology upsets. So, L1 is the general one? Yeah, L1 is the general one for any session. It opens up with a withhold missed, some emotion rejected. And L4 is for goal sessions. And it's all wrong goals, wrong items, giving you an incorrect item, and giving you a wrong worded goal, that kind of thing. Right, and question, Quenton, the L1 would become the L1C. You remember using that in session just recently. Yep. Yeah, okay. And, okay, so this makes total sense there. And there's a line in there that ties it right back to the last session. He says, in that same lecture, ARC breaks assessment, he says, this all bypassed charge is in some degree a missed withhold, missed by both auditor and PC. So, he's saying it himself. A missed withhold is the parent of all this. And, yeah, when you're running, when I was running L1C, that general list, the stuff that was coming off of there, you literally will find everything that could have possibly gone wrong in session from that list. Like, the list is so thorough. It's long, but, yeah. Right. He's drawing the family tree, top to bottom, subsets, and recursion. Maybe our listeners have heard me say that a few times. I'll say that a few times. And one more line from that bulletin, I want people to notice, because it's going to matter later. He says, this list are all bare bone and contain only the usual types of bypassed charge. They may be added to as experience with them increases. Right. And that's what I was mentioning before, is that where we're at now, in the late 60s, these were issued for a broad public issue for all auditors across the planet. So, added to as experience with them increases. That's what this was all about. So, the lists are meant to grow from the people using them. And they did. And that got added, literally added to the list. So, that now, in 2026, we have, and we've had for decades now, an ideal scene for a list of bypassed charge, depending on what it is you're handling. List one is used for ARC breaks. Right. And through July, he's teaching the course how to use them. So, the mistakes people are making, and I really like this one, because you see it in worksheets all the time. The auditor finds something, the PC perks up for a second, and then it all goes bad again. And he says, what happened? He says, in ARC breaks, this is Lecture 313, 11 July 63, you've found some cousin to it, some place or another, and you've just keyed in something else. Happens all the time. Some cousin to it, it sure does. Because it might not be the actual thing, but you get close to it. Right. You're touching that bypassed charge. You found the cousin. You didn't find the charge. And he's very confident about the whole thing. Same lecture, he says, no, it cures all ARC breaks, providing you can identify the bypassed charge. Right. Ooh, providing. That's the whole skill right there, in one word. Yeah. That's the whole skill. And then late July, he brings it back to the comm cycle, which I think is the simplest way everyone, everyone and anyone's ever put it since. An incomplete communication cycle results in bypassed charge, always. That's the dirty needle. Whether you're in session or not, when you don't get an ARC, you got a dirty needle. You're like, huh? Huh? Did you hear me? And this is not just about being in session. And for the listeners, this is life. This is marriages. This is jobs. This is work. I was actually talking to a client the other day. And she starts going on and on and on about something about her mother and something her mother would say to her or whatever, whatever. And she didn't start crying, but she started kind of getting a little misty, you know, a little misty-eyed. And I just kind of, you know, listened and I acknowledged and everything. And I said, I'd like to indicate that some bypassed charge was missed there. I got it. And she was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is, oh. And she goes, oh, oh. Okay. And we went right back into the conversation. Yeah, and that's everything. And that's why TRs are so important. That's why the Pro TRs course is so vital. Because otherwise, you've got this dirty needle sitting there. Huh? Huh? Huh? Did you hear me? That's why people get pissed off when they send a text and they don't hear anything back. It's stuck attention. What wasn't communicated? That's the ARC break. I passed charge, yeah. Yeah. Jeez. So, yeah. Well, so you text somebody something that matters to you. And like you said, they don't text back. They don't reply back. They just lift you on red. And you annoy it all afternoon because you're like, why is he texting back? Why is she saying anything back? Why aren't they communicating? That's bypassed charge. the comm never landed. It never landed, yeah. And then three days later, you step. Listen, I got a rule. If I don't hear from you within 24 hours, that's it. I don't need no more conversations about it. Three days. No. Right. That's the ARC break. And the dishes aren't the reason. Did you do the dishes? Same as a PC who tells you he's upset because the session started late. So, by the end of the summer, you've got that rule. The drill is named lists and the lectures on how to use them in about 10 weeks. That's busy building. They're building it, yeah. A very busy building. And that's the setting for the other account that LRH is, we're going to tell you about here right now. Because some of the people in that building remembered that summer differently. Now, here's where it gets interesting. And this is the other account. So, I'm going to tell you what kind of evidence this is before I tell you what it says. It's not a bulletin. It's not a tape. Okay. This was written down a long time afterwards, online. And some of it is one person's talent. You, our listener, and other readers, what another person told him. So, it's a few steps further away from LRH talking about it. Right. So, now there's three kinds on the table, really. You have the tape with the date on it. You have somebody's own memory written down later. And then you have somebody passing on what another person told them. And each one is a step further from the room. Like a game of telephone. Oh, yeah. A bit. Well, not that it's wrong. It's just further. Yeah, it's further away. But it goes back to people who were there. And we're going to give it to you straight right now. All right. So, the student name is Gordon Bell. In June 2023, an ex-Scientologist forum put up a memorial thread for him. It says he died on May, that May, at 86. It posted on that forum for years under the name Mystic. Mystic. Yep, Mystic. And the person on the first post is by somebody who knew him, telling the forum what Gordon had told him over the years. It says he joined at 22. He was in the Z unit at Saint Hill. And then about bypassed charge, it says this. Gordy also was the first to come up with the concept of bypassed charge, BPC. And I wanted to say something before we go further into this, because there's a lot in it. A lot of it is some of it's angry, some of it's political, some of it's people arguing with each other. So, we're not touching any of that. We took the parts from this, of the work that was in the room, in that room, and we're reading them word for word. So, we're not going into the hullabaloo of it all. We're just, this is the account. Right, and that's because they had ARC breaks themselves and didn't recognize it. I might point out. I indicate there was a bypassed charge. That's right. Exactly is written, typos and all. So, that's somebody relaying what Gordon said secondhand. Now, here's the one that's firsthand. In the same thread, another member pastes in a post by Alan Walter. I almost said Walker. Alan Walter was a Saint Hill student in that area. And, boy, I just cannot talk today. In that era, and later, a well-known auditor in the field. And Walter, in his own words, says this. Gordon Bell defined bypassed charge. I developed the original bypassed charge list corrections. Gordon Bell put the grades together. Now, this is where everything starts to tie together. Okay, and so this was something I want to point out, and I think I've said this before, is this Saint Hill Special Briefing Course was all an experiment. Okay, and so you have LRH trying to figure all this stuff out based off of case sessions, everything that's going on. And so it was sort of like driving at night with your lights on. You can only see as far as far as your lights go, okay? So in that situation, this is all experimental. And LRH and all of these sessions and all of these auditors, he's welcomed them into Saint Hill. And we're going to see where this thing goes and how we can figure all of this stuff out. Now, this goes back to what we were talking about back in the earlier episodes last season, where you had Kant, you had Korzybski, you had, what was the other? Freud, all of that, and so you have this recursion happening in Saint Hill at this time. So take that into consideration on this, is that everybody was sort of stumbling and fumbling around, including LRH. And with this research, as it was going on, they were traveling down the road as far as their lights would go into the darkness, and they'd figure it out. So if you set it side by side, you have the tape on 28 May, quote, unquote, "I discovered," that's LRH speaking, and then you have Walter: "Gordon Bell defined bypassed charge." Yeah, so it sounds like a bit of a direct contradiction. Yeah, on his face, yes. Two people who were there saying two different things. So who do you believe? I'm actually glad we're having this conversation, because this really starts to unravel, like, how this thing really starts to come about. So I like this. Right. Well, that's the thing. We're not going to tell you. You need to do your own due diligence, and what's true for you is true for you. And I want to explain why, because it's not dodging. That's not what we're trying to do here. Here's what we can actually check. The setting. The memorial post puts Gordon in the Z unit, with the students all experimenting. Does that room exist on the tapes? Yes, it does. The Z unit is on the tapes in February and March of May, 63. Advanced students running goals. That's the room. And there's more on the tapes. And this is where we have to be really careful. In January of 63, LRH is doing a demonstration of training drills. And he introduces the student who's going to be the coach. And he says, this is a TV demo. That's the name of the lecture. TV demo, TR0 demonstration. 16 January 1963. St. Hill Briefing Course. Lecture number 259. This is what LRH says. He says, and we have Gordon, who is a very senior student here. And coach. So, yeah. So, he actually introduces Gordon himself as a very senior student. That was in January of 1963. Right. Yep. And in March, he's going over a session that went sideways with a student in front of the course. And he says this. I'm not trying to make you nervous, Alan. Your professional reputation isn't at stake yet. You are not out of Z unit. This is now from lecture 276. When faced with the unusual, do the usual. That's from 7 March 1963. So, we got Gordon. We got Alan, both in the Z unit. Okay. I'm tracking. Right. So, here's the rule. A first name on a tape is not an identification. There could easily have been two Gordons and three Alans in that building. The tapes don't give surnames. So, we're not going to say that's Gordon Bell and that's Alan Walter. We don't know that. Yeah, it would be easy to, though. I could see how they could easily just say that. Yeah, it'd be really easy and it'd be wrong because we'd be saying more than we've got. So, what you can say is smaller but still useful. Nothing on the tapes contradicts the setting in those posts. And nothing on the tape confirms his main claim. The room checks out. Who said it first? The tapes don't say. Right. Now, there's a detail in that memorial post about how the list started. Same label. It's somebody relaying Gordon. This is the, you know, six degrees of separation type of a thing. In this case, it's two or three. It says, Gordon got into trouble in session, overrun, out rudiments, really spun in, and then this. Now, this is from a forum post by Looker, 10 June, 2023, same thread. Mystic just started describing what he was feeling and what it might be, and Alan Walters took notes. So, the PC describing his own bypassed charge, and the auditor was writing it down. Yeah, that's the story. And the post says, Walter kept adding to the list because people in the Z unit were, how does it put it, crashing left and right? Which, I mean, it finally fits really well. Like, they may be added to, like, they may be added to as experience increases. Right. Which was the whole point of the thing in the first place. It fits. I [unclear] want to be honest about what "fits" means. That's up to the listener and to anybody that does their due diligence. But it means the story and the bulletin don't fight each other. It doesn't mean the bulletins prove the story. The 5 July bulletin is over LRH's name, and it doesn't mention Walter. Yeah. You know, it reminds me kind of like a garage band. And you have four guys in the garage, and somebody hums off a riff, somebody else turns it into a song, and then the name of the record, whoever's name is on the record, and then 30 years later, every one of them remembers it a bit differently. And none of them are actually lying. It's just, we were all there, and this is kind of how it played out. Yeah, it's like the Beatles. People still argue about who wrote what. Yeah, people still argue about the Beatles. Yep. With the tapes. Right. And that's fair to point about memory, and I don't mean it against anyone. 40, 50, 60 years on, dates slide, conversations get squashed together, and who said it first is exactly the kind of thing that's hardest to hold on to. That's true of all of us. It doesn't make a memory false. It's why it gets a different label from a dated bulletin. And it cuts both ways. Like you have a bulletin, and it's exact about its date and its words, and one man wrote it. And from where he was sitting, neither kind of record is neutral. They're just different kinds. Yeah, and here's the line from Walter I actually think is the most important one. And it doesn't get quoted much, and this is from the same post. Quote, could we have done this without LRH? Probably not. But LRH could not have done this without us. Huh? Wait. Okay. Okay. And like I said earlier, bypassed charge, that's a man who's critical of a lot in that same post, and he still says, probably not without him. Well, okay. I mean, that's fair. I guess saying that. And it's kind of what a research floor is, isn't it? You have a student who notices something in session. The man writing the bulletin pulls that into a rule. Both can be true at the same time. Yeah, both can be true. Either one can be true. And again, this goes back to the axioms of three universes. You know, yours, mine, and the agreed upon reality. We don't know which, so we put them next to each other, and we're just stopping it right here, and we're putting it on the record for you, the listener. You've heard the evidence with the labels on it, and you get to decide. Yeah, I like that we stop here, because it doesn't have to go too deep down that rabbit hole, but yeah. Yeah, it's harder than it sounds. Everybody wants an answer. It's just a matter of looking at it from all these different sides. So, from these lists to the folder on the desk. So, whoever wrote the first ones down, follow the list forward, because the paper trail on this is actually quite very good. All right, so now we're looking at April 1964. There's a bulletin called Auditing by Lists, and he names Lists 1 and 4. Listen to this. He says, As a preview to the process, I asked staff member Roger Biddell to use Lists 1 and Lists 4, normally used for ARC breaks at level 4. Now, this is from HCOB of 23, April 64. Scientology III, Auditing by Lists. It's in the Red Vols, volume number 5. So, now this is interesting, because we actually get a person first and last name. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, he names a staff member, Roger Biddell. He runs it for some hours on a preclear with the bulletin says, excellent results, and writes up the instructions. And I want to point that out, because it's fair. LRH says he developed the process. He also puts a staff member's name in the bulletin for piloting it, which we talked about. So, the paper isn't silent about the room. We've got some receipts here. Time, place, form, and event. Axiom 38. Sometimes the room's right there by name. We got lucky on this one. Which makes Walters not being there more noticeable, honestly. Maybe. Or there's a bulletin we haven't found, or the church hasn't released. I mean, that's always a possibility. We don't know, and we're not going to fill that in. We only know what we know and what's on record in the technical volumes or on the tapes. Yeah. Then, in 1966, a list of one particular kind of listing work. This is in the search and discovery. And near the end, there's a catch-all. And then, Ron says, some other kind of bypassed charge. This is from HCOB, 16 August, 1966. List L4, S, and D. Yeah. And then, one most of us actually use, the L1C, which is 19 March, 1971. Here's what it says. It's four. LRH says, used by auditors in session when an upset occurs or is ordered by C/S. Handles ARC broken, sad, hopeless, or nattery PCs. This goes back to the ex-Scientologist message board and what we said earlier. Unfortunately, the application there wasn't as stringent as it should have been. Yeah. And nattery, yeah, I like that word because you can tell when there's an ARC break or you can tell when there's some bypassed charge there. When a PC starts to get nattery or hopeless or sad, you can see it. So, that's important. Right. And I'm not auditing you guys or our listeners when I say this, but he actually says, in the L1C, has a withhold been missed? Has some emotion been rejected? Do you have to say it like that? Oh, my God. [Unclear reply] Yeah. Hey, I've done pro-TRs and I know how to identify this. I mean, I'm not going to say it wrong on a podcast, for God's sake. Thank you. That's a good point. Fair enough. Yeah. But that's the 1963 list. Had a withhold been missed? Had some emotion been rejected? Eight years later, the tense changed and that's about it. That's wild, yeah. And I want to say something earlier. I said the L1C was long. I meant the L7. The L7 is long. That was the L7 idea. Yeah. Yeah. The L7 is really long. The L1C isn't as long, but it can be for a PC with a bypassed charge. And the L1C, and that's the one you'll find in just about every folder where a PC got upset. That's how you handle ARC breaks, especially in an emergency. Rudiments won't do. Whip out that L1C. And we've got a lineage straight back to that summer. Yeah. Jonathan, when you're C/Sing a case and you see an L1C come back, what are you actually looking for after that L1C or with that L1C there? Well, I mean, you know, if there isn't any charge there, it won't read. What read and what happened when the auditor indicated it? If the line read and the PC brightened up, floating needle, good indicators, we're done. The charge was found. So if the auditor went down the list and nothing really landed, meaning a read, then you know the charge is somewhere else. You may be on a different list. You just haven't found it yet, which is exactly what he was telling the course in July 63. Wrong list. Go find the right one. 60 years later and the same instruction. Yeah. 60 years and it hasn't needed to change. Well, that's the label clear on all of it. Dated record, a general list, a wrong items list by name, L1 and L4, in July 63, getting refined for eight years. Recollection. That Walter wrote the first ones from Gordon's session. Yeah. And LRH's own verdict on them. Whoever wrote the first draft is in a bulletin at the end of 1971. All capitals. This is from LRH. There's nothing, LRH says, in Dianetics and Scientology as miraculously workable as correction lists. Now, it's important to note there were a lot of class 12s who'd been around who were just running across this new thing called prepared lists. And they didn't like them. Karen [unclear surname] is one of them. I don't mean to call her out. But this is a firsthand report that I had. And this is the thing. Because people were used to auditing one way and they didn't like prepared lists. They like to, you know, kind of fish and fumble and find it themselves. And this solved the problem. It solved the problem so easily that these earlier auditors were, well, you know, I can do that myself. You know, I don't need no stinking list. I could have found it. Yeah, I could have found it. Yeah. Well, you could argue with the first one, I guess, maybe. But you can't argue with 60 years of listing folders that worked. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's the meter again. Well, kind of. The tool outlives the argument about it. Right. The meter. It does. And there's a third thing the room gets credited with back at St. Hill by the same recollection. And it's on the wall of every course room. Okay. Now, this is where we're tying things, even in a prettier little bow here on the grade. So, by 1964, the subject has a really good problem. It's got about 14 years of processes tested. And this goes all the way back into the 50s. Okay. 14 years tested and it's working and no particular order. And so, in a toolbox with everything thrown in, it's all there. Right. And that's exactly what it is or was. And if a guy walks in off the street, what do you run first? And in what order? How do you know he's done with one and ready for the next level? So, the answer is you sort them. You group them by what they handle. Put the groups in order. Give each one a result you can name. And that's, well, that's what the grades are. Yeah. Yeah. And the first grade chart was produced in 1965. We have these. There are minor modifications in between. And I've been searching for them. I used to have them. I don't anymore. But they're very minor modifications. We have all the major grade charts that from 1965 forward, and you can download these on the front page of the site in the menu, and you can see the history of how the grade chart developed. Okay. And that's all there is to it. You can see this recursion happening through time from 1965 forward. Yeah. And then, like, it says that, like, that's what became grades from one through five. And Walter, in his own post, Gordon Bell put the grades together. Same level as before. Memory decades later, one of them secondhand. So this, the post, go ahead, John. No, well, I was just saying, and that's how this whole thing got started with the grades. They weren't expanded at this time. We'll get to that later. Mm-hmm. So, Gordy was asked to assemble the grades according to his, that post. What is actually on paper by LRH? Yeah. Do you have that, that quote, the gradation and classification gradation program? Yeah. And that's, and that's, that's where everything started. But again, the expanded grades came later. So, what it comes down to is, now, this is the part I'm really pleased with because it's on the tape, in his own voice, and on paper. He's lecturing the course on what he calls the classification and gradation program, and listen to how he says it came about. The policy letter goes out in November before proposing classification, and it's not put into effect. It's sent out for comment. And this is from Saint Hill Special Briefing Course Lecture, the Classification and Gradation Program, which is what you mentioned. It was expected, LRH says, that auditors around the world would answer up and give their opinions, their opinions, with regard to this classification program. And they did so. So, this is still that, that recursive improvement happening. Basically, he was doing a poll. What do you think? Yeah. And so, he asked the field. He literally, like, you guys are out here running this. You guys are out here doing it. What results are you seeing? What do you think? Yeah. Give your opinion on it. Right. He asked the field. The grades [unclear] out of a proposal that auditors everywhere wrote back on. And that's literally on the tape. So, even the dated record doesn't say this one man alone in a room. Right. So, he's giving, I mean, he's publicly giving credit saying, what do you think? Then, he says, he says, he says, why it's needed. It's not what I expected. It's, it wasn't that PCs were being run on staff too high for them. Now, this is from, yeah. I went from, from that lecture of classification and gradation program in 14 April, 1964. He says, it wasn't because the PC was being thrown in over his head, but because the PC was not told what he was being thrown into. He hadn't a clue. Yeah. And, unfortunately, even, even back into the, the late 80s, this wasn't really adhered to. And, even to date, from what I've seen with people that come in from the church, is they don't get R-factored properly on what it is they're being thrown into. They don't understand what's coming next. It's just sort of, you know what I'm talking about. I do. You know, it's just, okay, we're going to jump into the end of the pool, there's the water, and they push you in. Okay. And, that's, that's something we don't do, because we're aware of this data, and we're relating it to you, the listener, here in this podcast. So, he put a number on it. He says, auditors were losing about 80% of the people they started with. 80%. Because nobody had told them what auditing even was. Hmm. One out of 10 people, LRH says, reach two. This is from Classification and Gradation Program, same lecture, 14 April 1964. Yeah, two out of 10. That's brutal. It is. It's really brutal. So, the grades are partly an answer to that. Give the person a map. Here it is on the wall. Tell them where he is and where he's going. And don't forget to educate him before you take him in session. Or during. I mean, you know, you educate him on the wall, but you also educate him in session. Right. Yeah. Give him an R factor for sure. And he, because if he didn't have a clue, that's true. Like, he's going to walk into something that he has no idea what it is. And he thinks that this is therapy or psychotherapy or something like that. Like, this is not what I signed up for. Yeah, like on the same tape, he's got the guy who's been in for two years and he's still answering, like, his psychoanalysis. My id's been ticking today. And then he, right. And then LRH defines the word. He says, then what is a grade? A grade is something that a PC has. Has. It's not something you do to him. It's something he has. Like, did you make the grade? He uses that. That's where this. From. This is a grade. You made it. And then here's how, you know, he's got it. He says, in other words, we make his conquest of the environment, the index of his grade. That's from the same St. Hill special briefing course lecture. Listen, I've been talking about this is Sunday service. Y'all do the bridge. Do the lower bridge. Get up there. Because the conquest of the environment. I love that. If you're the con you being able to conquer your own environment is the index of your grade. You make the grade and you got it. That's what I'm talking about right there, LRH. Yeah. So he walks through what they look like and he confront his own. He can confront his own problems in life. He's not worrying about every ache and pain. He's not living in the past. And then this one, same lecture. Another level is, LRH says, another level is he stopped trying to make everybody wrong and himself right all the time. Yeah, that's grade four. Yeah, he says it on the tape. That's what they're called. [Unclear] as four. Yep. So, grade four. Yep. That's grade four. Now, here's a little thing I notice. On that same tape, he says this. So, actually, the earliest grade is really grade one. Okay. Now, this gets changed later on. This is 1964. Like I said, this is recursively improving. So, keep that in mind. He says there's a level zero but no grade zero because who gives somebody a grade for being the man in the street? And he says five's a bit of a catch-all at this point. So, the recollection says grades one through five. Right. And by 64, that's pretty much how he numbers them himself. By September 65, the bulletin's got a grade zero. So, the memory's numbering matches the 64 tape better than the later chart because of recursive improvement. Now, that's us noticing something and letting you know here in the podcast. That's not proof of anything, but it's the kind of detail that tells you the memory isn't just made up out of the later chart. Yeah, that's a good catch. Yeah. And the bulletin says, the bulletin, 22 September 1965, marked urgent three times. And this is where you get the word grade gets attached to the releases. And he says, so as to minimize any upset in introducing these additional levels of release, we will cease to call release by stages and call them by grades. That's from HCOB 22 September 65, release, gradation, new levels of release. And look at grade three on that list. Grade three release, ARC break processes. This is the old routine 4H, renamed R or routine 3H. That's September 65, release, gradation, new levels of release, same bulletin. So, the summer of 63 has its own grade, okay. Right, there it is. Two years after, all ARC breaks are caused by bypass. Charge, ARC breaks are a grade on the chart on grade three. Yeah, and this is the season, really. The grade chart is a distillation. 14, 15 years of processes packed or picked and put in order, given a name. So, it's a nice little package. That's the same thing we've watched him do with Freud, with Korzybski, and the Veda. And here it's the subject's own back catalog. Yeah. And so, for anybody who's stood in front of a grade chart, the order on the grade chart isn't a law of nature. If somebody built that in a particular room over particular years, and we see year by year by year, the things on the grade chart might need to be changed around or might need to be added or put here, put there, taken off some things or whatever. And you have the grade chart. And you have the grade chart laid out for us because of what works. Yep, exactly. Like, it's a recipe somebody wrote down. Knowing who wrote it doesn't make the food taste worse. The recipe is the recipe. If it's a chocolate cake, it's a chocolate cake. Yeah. And I like that he built it out of things that you can actually spot, like things that you can actually feel. Because now you have achieved a level such and such, right? And it's based on, like he said earlier, the conquest of his environment is how we're going to chart this. And so, you can see that a man is able to face his problems or he's able to now communicate well with anybody. Or you still spend all day chewing on, you don't spend all day chewing on the past. All of these things that are noticeably different in a person's reality, in a person's environment, this is how the grades go up and up. And so, I like that. And it's so nice because as you change, your family notices, like people that are closer to you, they will definitely know something's different about you. Right. It's real life. It's different. And that's what makes it real. Right. You change. Yep, I sure have. And you better get with it. Because if you ain't, you ain't. But that's what I'm saying. Like, it's real stuff. This is real life stuff. And when I encourage people to go clear, go up the bridge, this is why. It's not just a certificate on your wall. This is something that you can actually practically use in your own universe, in your own life. And it changes how you walk throughout your day. Right. Knowing it was built doesn't make it less useful. You actually understand why each step is where it is. And it's on the chart in front of you. And you experience it in session. So, where does that leave it? In 63, in one building, inside about six weeks, you get the rule, the drill, and the first named list, which we talked about earlier. A year later, the grades [unclear] being laid out. Two years after that, ARC breaks have their own grade. Yeah. And whose name goes on it depends on which record you're holding. But it's all laid out for us there. Yeah. The paper has his name and his, I discovered. This is a group effort, obviously. The members have Gordon Bell and Alan Walter. The tapes have a Gordon and Alan, a Z unit, a staff member named Biddell, and auditors around the world writing in on the grades as a poll, basically. And nobody gets to close that gap with a guess, not us. And it's not anybody else. But you can put the pieces together. You know, and after going through this and really laying out this podcast, I really come out with a higher level of respect for the people that were in that building. And a really greater understanding of the Saint Hill Special briefing course. You got a man at a desk pulling it up, pulling it all together faster than anybody could keep up. And a room full of people who were brave enough to be test pilots, to be using these things. Some of them had crashes, you know, got strained out later. But that is really a memorial post of everything that kind of went down in that period. So, and they just keep going with it. I like it. Yeah, and to think we're still using what they made, like today, on our own lines. So, if only you take one thing away, make this the mechanism. You have charge, gets woken up, and gets missed. Then the person gets upset. You find the right one, like the right charge that was missed. And that's it. You just point at it, and it's gone. That's what's going on in every review session you've ever made or ever had. And I laugh because I hearken back to conversations and arguments and debates that lasted for hours. Lasted for hours. And all I had to do. All I had to do was indicate some missed bypassed charge. But, okay, well, the next time somebody gets upset with you, for those of you that are listening, outside of session, you might ask yourself, did I go past something? Did I drag a magnet past something that got pulled up? Is there a missed withhold there? Is there some bypassed charge there? You might want to ask yourself before you spent hours and hours like I did. Yeah, which is the most practical thing we've said all season, really, you know, is applying this. Yeah. Not just in session, but in life. Somebody gets upset, you've missed a withhold or they have an out list, but that comes later. So that's that's the whole point of this in session, outside of session, you handle in session what happened outside of session or what happened in session. If the auditor missed something and didn't know it, it doesn't mean that they're wrong, but it shows up on the meter. You handle it with a list, you handle it permanently as a release, and those can be rehabbed, too, because life kicks people in the head once they get auditing. The rest gets handled on the OT levels. Nice. Yeah. So, okay, the dates and what goes. You have February 62, the missed withhold. You have May 62, all ARC breaks, come from missed withholds. And then 27 May 63, all ARC breaks from bypassed charge. 25 June, R2H, 5 July, the L lists, April 64, the classification tape, September 65, the grades by name, with ARC breaks at grade 3. Yeah. Now, one more thing from that memorial post, because it's where we go next. But wait, there's more, like Steve Jobs says. It says Gordon knew a couple who brought LRH something at dinner one evening. And he says this is from Looker on that same forum post. And this is a quote. He knew the two English professors who brought LRH, the study tech, one evening over dinner. It's like Charles and Ava Berner. Yeah. Charles and Ava Berner. Same label as everything else in that thread. It's a recollection. This is somebody's account of it passed on. And one of the replies in that very thread says it thinks Charles studied English but didn't teach it. So even the thread doesn't agree with itself on the detail. Next time, we put it next to the paper the same way we did today. Yeah. That's the way it kind of starts to argue with itself. Okay. Yeah. Even the thread. And one more thing on how we did this so you can check us. The forum page itself wouldn't load for us. We read it from the Internet Archive. Save copy from December 2023. And every line we quoted from it is word for word. The bulletins are from the volumes. The tapes are from the transcripts in our lecture library. All right. So you have the paper for the next time starts on a date. 18 June 1964, Saint Hill, Study Tape 1. Yeah. And it's already peeking out of the 1965 bulletin. September 22nd, 1965, release gradation. New levels of release. And LRH says, at two, you teach a student all about study. The genus of overts is the missed withhold. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. The genus of overts is the missed withhold. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'll give you that again. At two, we teach a student all about study. The genus of overts is the misunderstood. Sorry. And O-Ws. Right. The misunderstood word. The missed withhold comes after. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So the genus of our study is that overts, misunderstood words, missed withholds. Hmm. Yeah. The misunderstood, which is where Korzybski's, quote, the word is not the thing from episode three finally bans right here. And it runs all the way to the student in her own course room with a dictionary open with Klaatu on our courses today. Yep. That's right. So it's Dinner with the Berners. Right. Dinner with the Berners. So I want to thank Quenton. Thank you. Simphiwe. Anything you guys want to say in closing before we sign off for this podcast? Just just on a personal note, like like I said before, this really brings a higher level of respect for the way this whole bridge was laid out, the work that people put into it, the recursive nature of it, how it was sussed out and discovered that these things are what actually gets a being into a better condition. And I love the part where it's conquest of his environment, because that's what we're here to do. So let's get it done. Yeah. And this makes so many things make so much sense. Like I've, I've, I've had situations where I've been on some action for like 14 months and I'm like, what is going on? And there was like an element of, well, not being like, not knowing what I've been thrown into. And then obviously now it's like, okay, there's like a whole lot of bypassed charge there. And it just goes like, oh, now it all makes sense. I wish I had listened to this podcast before I first went in session for the first time. Whoever's going to go in session after having listened to this, you're lucky fish. Right. And that's, that's what we're doing with the podcast is we're trying to get this out there to everybody to understand this lineage as connections. And in, in the more you understand this, this is the abbreviated, really abbreviated version of what the St. Hill special briefing course and, and getting your auditor training, going up the bridge, receiving that, that training from another auditor, going clear, going OT. And you can find out all about this, all about this in our two week free trial started yesterday. 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